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Z Moser
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Wed, 13 Aug 2003 20:37:57 +0000
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Re: [idm] I killed dancing music
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quoted 3 lines Over here though we'll get a venue with 2000 kids and i'd say a good 50% of>Over here though we'll get a venue with 2000 kids and i'd say a good 50% of >them are on drugs and fucked up. Thats just from personal experience in my >area of the US. It's quite disgusting.
I always find this a interesting perspective in on a music scene that owes at least part of it's inspiration & roots to the condemned drugs, and drug users themselves. There are whole genres that are specifically designed to be experienced on some sort of drug, and many of the underlying elements of other genres are at least influenced by the use of drugs or the idea that the people listening to the music will either be on a certain drug or would have sometime in there life experienced that drug. It is equivalent to someone greatly admiring tie-dye t-shirts, but hating that damn pot-smoking acidhead hippy who created it. Two side notes: First, I live in america also. Trust me there is allot more alcohol related incidents of violence and deaths in relation to violence and death caused by rave related drugs. If you don't trust me, just turn on your local news and see how long it take to hear of someone who died in a drunk driving related incident, or go to a local bar or club and see tempers flare and fights break out once the drinking gets started. Now do the same for rave related drugs and see which proverbial hand gets full first. A person on a rave related drug is more likely to want to hug you or engage in a intellectual conversation. I am not saying that there are not bad effects, just that they miniscule when compared to the bad effects of legal drugs. This leads me to believe that drugs are just a scapegoat to underlying reasons why governments want raves shut down. What the true reason is I could only speculate. One thing I do know is through out history governments have never liked large gathering of open minded youngsters. Second, I don't like the implication that all drugs are bad, and the people on them are bad. Who sets these standards. It sounds more like memetic control mechanism. When I first went to raves I was under the impression that electronic music was terrible. The only reason I went was to look for a certain drug that I had been wanting to experiment for the last 5 years before hand. Once I took this drug electronic music made allot more sense, actually allot of things made a lot more sense, but that is beside the point. Today I no longer do drugs. Besides the occasional psychedelic maybe once or twice a year. I guess I grew out of them. But I didn't grow out of my love for electronic music it becomes wider and deeper everyday. You can blame this on those evil drugs. Lastly, the 50% of the 2000 you mentioned. Is that just a device to prove a point. Or do you actually do representative sampling when you go to these events? _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org